wn. Some students may not move as fast as others, others may move blindingly fast through what takes months for the average. There must be a structure which provides order and challenge relative to the needs of the student. @FC= Leslie M. Orchard (Re: fc & education) Linda Morse, that amazing spam eater, wrote: [...] > We can still have good state > schools for high school education without making high school compulsory. Forget Highschools. Hormones and socialization ruin most of those years. Send the kids to expend that energy building peace corp projects in various spots around the world for the three years of high school, or teaching poetry, or fishing, or a whole plethora of things... and make the tools of self-education available to those folx as well. Then for the folx who want to go on to college give them a free ride through ph.d. This way people sort themselves, and have some worldly knowledge to base the decisions about their own futures on. @FC= John Frost/indigo (Re: fc & education (fwd)) The only way to 'know' the truth is to know many 'truths'. Anyone who wants to tell you that only one opinion exists is either stupid or crazy. I take information from many different people/sources and compile it to what I like. Being able to selectivly pick out any information given to me is what I call knowing it. @FC= tom crimi (Re: fc & education) Language creates false distinctions which fly off and circle the ineffable zero point. The opposite of lesser truth is true. The opposite of great truth is also true. Yet everything is true. Even false things. The knigdom is at hand. Eternity is all around you. Who am I? Who asks? @LERI= Tate Owen Engstrand (Re: Old souls seek comfy home) On -1 xxx -1, it was written: Without identity, without time, it's message had no shape. @LERI= Tate Owen Engstrand (Re: FOREWARNING: *FIXION*) A suicide which examines the ways in which the beauty and joy of life slips through our fingers may be worth watching. @LERI= Gerold Firl (Re: .mut and net performance art) "Making love with a woman and sleeping with a woman are two separate passions, not merely different but opposite. Love does not make itself felt in the desire for copulation [a desire that extends to an infinite number of women] but in the desire for shared sleep [a desire limited to one woman]." @LERI= .rez (appropriated) I was just browsing the newsgroups, [...], and I discovered a nice little paradox: IF God is almighty, He can create large stones. In fact, He can create very large stones, so heavy that He can't lift them. But, if He is almighty, He OUGHT to be able to damn well lift them. If He can't make stones that He can't lift, He isn't almighty. It's a lose-lose situation - either way, He isn't almighty. Seems like one of those Goedelian paradoxes, right? Aha! But since He is also all-wise, He just does a little bit of lateral thinking, and uses His almighty powers to create an even more powerful God than Himself. According to Pauli's Holy Exclusion Principle, two Gods cannot inhabit the same meta-universe, so the original God will be instantly obliterated, to be replaced by the even more powerful God. The transition would be instantaneous, and even Christians in prayer wouldn't notice it. Let's assume that God has done this n times. We can call the current God, whom we all love and trust, God[n]. A doubting atheist shouts into the inky blackness of the night sky that he doesn't believe in God, and mentions the stone problem set out above. In the blink of an eye, God[n] creates the stone that He cannot lift. The atheist laughs nastily, and says "See! You can't lift it. Call yourself almighty?". Winking to the onlookers, God[n] creates God[n+1], who lifts the stone effortlessly - "piece of piss!". @LERI= Dagk (God and the big stone) Regarding truth, it seems to work well to ask *in what way is that true?* It seems that everything is true in some way. We also have choices. I may prefer one choice over another, sometimes very strongly. @LERI= Jim Hawtree (Re: Old souls seek comfy home) A very interesting *external* exercise: When I am confronted by someone that I feel disgust towards (blatant racist, bigot, rabid fundie, etc.) I listen to what they say, and say "I understand." Maybe they think then that I agree, but they are sure that I at least have heard their position, and takes a tremendous amount of negative wind out of their sails. And, _mirabile dictu_, sometimes they even begin to soften their own position because they have no obvious need to mentally arm themselves for warfare. If the person in question is really dispicable in the way they come across, I just ask an "innocent" question or two, listen to their answer, and say again, "I understand." (Of course, "understand" does not mean "agree", it just means respect.) Verbal Tai Chi?? (Of course it is necessary to fight the overwhelming impulse to say, "You are full of shit because...") ;-) Just thought you'd be interested in the above; trying it out leads to some very surprisingly peaceful results! Even if I am "in the right" in my own mind does not imply that my correctness extends to the rest of the universe, heh. @LERI= Jim Hawtree (Re: Old souls seek comfy home) things are so silly sometimes @LERI= silence (all this and nothing more) > "Making love with a woman and sleeping with a woman are two separate > passions,not merely different but opposite. Love does not make itself felt > in the desire for copulation [a desire that extends to an infinite number > of women] but in the desire for shared sleep [a desire limited to one > woman]." Hmmm... a curious idea. Perhaps the originator of this quote was an insomniac? I can imagine how, after nine years without sleep, I could fall deeply in love with a woman with whom I could catch a few z's... but in general, this concept of love is quite inapplicable to me. I have never been particularly attracted to women who are shaped like mattresses, and the idea of love at first snooze with a woman who makes me sleepy seems wrong somehow. "Mmmm, baby, you are positively narcoleptic ... I can't keep my eyes open when I look at you ... somebody ... turn out the lights ... zzzzz" @LERI= Gerold Firl (Re: appropriated) Rob Zee writes: >Or maybe we should rename "artificial inteligence" likewise and >call it "virtual intelligence." I believe Marvin Minsky originally suggested the term "epistemilogical engineering" for what we now call AI. While certainly not as sexy, it would have made a whole generation of hackers aware of what "epistemology" was. @IPCT= STU DENENBERG (Virtual NOT reality) (about virtual reality:) Not only are we all in this together, we are all of this together. @IPCT= STU DENENBERG (Virtual NOT reality) According to Scotto: > I'm now approaching my 44th hour without sleep. Just had to slip that in, > I mean, there's no sense doing it if you can't tell yer friends, well, > other than the way things sort of blend together. welcome to @leri after hours coffee house. @LERI= deborah lynn siegel (Re: new words) That's it for this edition of Leri After Hours. The tinkling of the ivories slowly fades into the wash, and the smell of cappucino slowly wafts away into the morning air. I'm staggering home to bed now. I'm disappointed to say that after 48 hours, I had only two hallucinatory experiences, and they were too muted to be any fun. Maybe next time I'll try this without the Ephedrine. Anyhow, coming up next is the Leriland Morning Zoo, and don't forget to tune in to Leri Prime Time coming up tonight just when you'd expect it to. "and on behalf of myself and the band, I hope we passed the audition." @LERI= Scotto (new words for old situations) I think we're really starting to communicate. @LERI= deborah lynn siegel (Re: Mutant Grandpa Compost Pile) So lately I've been wanting to try an experiment; eliminate the normal linguistic and grammatical patterns and structures and purposely use nonsense vocalisation to communicate. My SO and I tried this for a little bit the other night, and, when we could keep from laughing, had an interesting "conversation". There was a certain freedom to it that was quite appealing. I even wondered if repeated use of this technique might foster intuitive/telepathic abilities; 'course, maybe that's just silly. I *do* know that it made me feel like I was using a part of my brain that I don't normally use. @LERI= John Marsh (Re: Mutant Grandpa Compost Pile) Willow: > I don't know if I'm just strange or something, but I talk about > masturbation with my friends all the time. We can barely manage to hold > on to the phone, our hands are so slipry! Masturbation!!! Gads!!! It surely be a sin against our Lord! Ye shall be stricken blind, and hair will groweth from the palms!!! Cover up those table legs!!!!! My loins are stricken with the base urgings of the beasts of the field!!! The discusting, earthy pleasures of the flesh. The abasement, the fornication, wrestling, naked as Adam and Eve, the... the..... errrrrrggghhh!!, ...uh.. uhh.... uhhhh...yes...yes.. ooooooh...... aaaaaaahhhhhh!!! Ahem, as I was saying... ,hmm, not now, I need to go and search for some tissues or a towel. (or a sock). @LERI= SOL (Re: masturbation & bugar eating) Culture itself is a very necessary thing for the survival of a nation or society. We see in the media that decentralization and demassification is coming fast with digital compression providing obscene amounts of band- width to anyone who can fill it. hould education become as fragmented and uncentered? The essence of education is knowledge, and included in that is a sense of one's own culture--the literature, the values, the beliefs, et al. @FC= Leslie Orchard (Re: fc & education) The thing I like about the net is that I can mail you. @FC= Dwayne (Re: AstroVR policy & statements) Where are the leaders of the Future? @FC= Indigo (Ethics and the Future (was yesterdays movements =?= etc)) No point getting shitty with someone on the other side of the world. @FC= Dwayne (Re: An All-American Net?) Well, I certainly don't think that the net will "die" whatever happens. Cultures morph and the present net.culture will simply *have to* accomodate. If discussions lose their interest and there is nothing but flamewars all around, should one just sit down and whine? No, the only solution is to build new cultural spaces where things can continue to grow. If there is no room overground, go underground. Diversify, follow any interesting lead and if a space (the notion of "space" here refers to a community or forum for interaction) fails to interest you, move on and create your own. Alt.cyberpunk is certainly "dying" as an interesting space. Some have worded their fear that futurec might be going the same way. I don't know, but I do know that it is always possible to create. That's what it's all about, isn't it? @FC= Marius Ibenhardt Watz (Re: An All-American Net?) sameer: > I have no food, just physics and the desire > to find my damn glasses. ah, but that's even better. a Goal: a Vision. :) @LERI= .rez (luck) I have, within my mind/brain, a "model" of everything that I know about. This model consists of a set of brain cells and the connections between them. The more detailed the model, the more complex its organisation, and the more complete the representation. If the model is a representation of an entity, with drives and a personality, then this set of brain cells can become the core of a persona if normal consciousness is not active. Thus a person who has detailed knowledge of a god or spirit can be "possessed" by that spirit, though it all comes from within, and is a completely physical phenomenon. @LERI= Gerold Firl (Re: SDL, trances, mind-brain stuff) Whenever I get down about being a starving student, and feel like getting a job (about once or twice a year) I go and sit near a train station at about 5pm, and watch all the grey people in their grey clothes wth their grey and hurried faces scramble to go home and unwind. Keeps me going for the next six months. @LERI= Dwayne (Re: Enlightenment (was Re: lah ha ha ha)) How can *any* personna misrepresent a person ? If a person *willingly* and *intentionally* relates to you through a particular personna, then that person is relating to you in *exactly* the way that they want to. If you don't like relating to that particular personna because you feel it is too distant or too close, then isn't that your reaction to they way that person chooses to relate to you and not a falseness on their part? Besides, it is pointless to worry about how true or false a person's personna is because it is impossible to ever know for sure if another person is being honest with you. @LERI= Brian (RE: lah ha ha ha ha giggle) > ib real sik. i habent been sik in years, you know, like i stay id bed > and let it conquer be. so im crying for sympathy real weak like. > > dabmn. the world seems hostile frob here. > > -debbie of the common cold Steps to conquer the rhodinovirus: 1. Wrap up in mucho warm clothes (flannel preffered) 2. Have pleeenty of orange juice on hand at all times (fluids + VitaminC) 3. Snuzzle with a feline 4. Procure reading materials 5. keep remote control devices embedded within covers at all times. @LERI= Walter Michael (Re: i want my mommy) ask yourself some questions: am I good looking? am I brave? am I strong? am I smart? am I cunning? am I mischievious? am I clever? am I sneaky? am I heroic? am I coherent? am I making any sense? am I acting stupid? is it dumb for me to ask myself these questions? your answers will shed some light on the persona which you percieve of yourself. my answers will "inform" you as to the persona which I percieve. having our personas in sync is *not* the same as being the inner self -- it's more akin to consensual hallucination. @LERI= Jon 'Iain' Boone (Re: lah ha ha ha ha giggle) Sameer Parekh: > Trees! Trees! I love TREES! God, I hate trees right now. Weighted, balanced, traversing them, binary trees, parsing trees, ambiguous or not... oh, you mean those big brown things that are supposed to be green most of the time... dunno. Been inside, mostly. @LERI= Murali (TREES!!!) Work was invented a few thousand years ago, and like most inventions from those days is becoming rapidly obsolete. There's still currently a need for some people to work, but given another few decades most of that will vanish. If nanotech works, then everything from food to space shuttles becomes practically free (or at worst the cost of ftping the 'GNU Generic Sports Car' (or whatever) design to stick into your home nano-construction kit). While I suspect that a lot of people would still work even then (but in fields that require skill and knowledge rather than brute force), it would at the least be optional. @LERI= Mark Grant (Re: Enlightenment (was Re: lah ha ha ha)) :Could someone please define 'gnow' for me...? A combination of "know" and "gnosis" - when you know something is _true_, deep inside, but can't "prove" it rationally...like when you gnow that you love someone, and vice versa, but there's no way of knowing that it's true... gnow is halfway between know and grok, and that's just where I like it. @LERI= Murali (T.A.Z) this be mistress Elliott and i was wondering if anyone knew about any ways to controll the urge to rip peoples throats out. @LERI= Elliott the Red Race Car (annoyances) The current education systems were designed to produce people who would do what they were told, turn up to the factory on time, repeat the appopriate operations for their job as if they were cogs in a big machine, and go home to sleep and procreate before the next day at work. Needless to say, in a society that needs intelligent, capable, self-reliant people, this is a real problem. The number of cogs needed to keep the 'social machine' running is getting smaller and smaller, and while the governments can keep fitting cogs together into other configurations that don't actually do anything but keep them moving, eventually they're going to have to give up. But, of course they're scared stiff of doing so, because intelligent, self-reliant people are desperately dangerous for governments. @LERI= Mark Grant (Re: work (was: enlightenment)) [On Tribe :] Funny thing about advertising an e-list on random Usenet groups... You get an e-list version of Usenet. Go figure. @FC= Eric Cook (Re: Info Overload) When I write, I try to include personal experience and examples. And when I do it right, I'm happy. But that's just me, y'know... This, of course, goes beyond just "net-ness", and into the act behind looking at and enjoying a person's writing style, the act of getting to know and appreciate another individual human being, including, but not limited to, both the things they say, and the way they say them. "Oh, the humanity!" :) @FC= Eric Cook (Re: style) my ONLY role on leri is to be ME! same with everyone else! and the scope and bounds of that role are defined by the past words and deeds i've been on leri, and my role is REfined by the future opportunities for words and deeds to come. there are those far more rational than me, far more touchy-feely than this person, far more artsy than that person. everyone's role is to be THEMSELVES, to the most extreme degree possible for them. [...] because ONLY by being wholly themselves will they be able to catch glimpses into the natural blind-spots of others here, and only by doing that can we, as a WE, constantly self-organize. @LERI= free agent .rez (%%%) Knowledge and certainty are contextual. @LERI= Will Wilkinson (percept/concept) [...] as mikeG said, after you've tried suicide, every day is a free day. @LERI= .rez (ky on the WEmeme) >THE< ONE AND ONLY > MEmeme < is a VERY specific meme, the idea that i am all i can ever gnow. similarly, i don't know what a weme is yet, but i think it loses its use if its made interchangeable with >THE< one and only WEmeme, which is the idea that community occurs/is possible/forms us into various WEs /despite/ the truth of the MEmeme. there are, imho, no such thingS as WEmemeS and MEmemeS... they are singular, extremely specific ideas/memes, or they lose their punch, imho. @LERI= .rez (MEmeme/WEmeme) [...] what i'm trying to speak of here is /consciousness,/ not necessarily physical reality. see ? of course i could have the camcorder, as well as spectrographic infrared analyses, etc etc, and that'd be physics. but when i try to study/model CONSCIOUSNESS, not /reality,/ it gets tougher, because the only data we get on conscious perception are the reports of experience left behind by the mere mortal humans. and those reports can be cuked up. what dennett's saying is NOT that we can never know for sure what the REALITY of the situation was, but that we can never know for sure what the person's PERCEPTION of that reality was. @LERI= .rez (ger...) Do you ever get the impression that people who complain about reductionism are simply unable or unwilling to think logically ? While it is certainly possible to take logic to spockian extremes, and drain the pleasure out of life, the other extreme of denying the joy of knowledge is probably even worse. To be a whole person we must pursue both knowledge and pleasure. There is a place for apollo and dionysius, minerva and aphrodite. @LERI= Gerold Firl (Reality again) SOL: > Can anyone knock out a list of politically correct sayings and phrases to > cater for most situations? > I called a bloke I work with a "retard" and was told not to use this term > as this derided a medical condition. I think "Shit eating parasite" is fairly egalitarian and should prove a less offesive means to offend people. Oop, sorry, I'm being speciesist. @LERI= tate (Re: correct my mouth) } Of course, the reader will have an subjective opinion about } the herstory making. But, I would like to here your opinion } about the archives. } Doctress Neutopia The word 'history' is from the Greek root 'histor' meaning inquiry. The word 'his' is from Olde Englisch, meaning gender of he (he's -> his), and 'her' is from the Old Englihs moeaning gender of heo (heo's -> hers). So swappping out 'his' for 'her' in 'history' is a ridiculout Northern Exposure, quasi-feminist man-hating insult. Even if it was meant in semi-jest, it's offensive, like saying "ovify" instead of "testify". @LERI= Mike Gourlay (ovimony) So, I see one of my tasks here on Leri is to exorcise us of the phallic war demons. @LERI= Doctress Neutopia (ovimony) Hmm... is it just me, or do all *my* rituals always revolve around chocolate ? hmm... @LERI= Murali (.) deb: : yer there, buddy, yer there :) i'm with *you*, a RITUAL needs chocolate. : me and Ky will bring the chocolate, aint that right sister. Groovy. Chocolate invariably leads to fun, in one form or another. Something to do with physics, I think. @LERI= Murali (.) > The Church is concerned with the salvation > of human beings and not animals. what's the difference ? @LERI= andy kalinowitsch (Re: More Christian Apologetics) I'm sitting here in front of the screen for enlightenment. But when I turn around I am lost in the post-industrial world. I am 33,000 dollars in debt from student loans and the world just does not employ epic poetessess. I live with my ex-husband whom I don't love in an erotic way. When I masturbate at the end of the climax I cry because I don't think life should be this way. So I quit masturbating because it got me too sad. Now it think my libido has been sublimated into Leri. I'm putting all my sexual energy here. How do you like my orgasms? @LERI= Doctress Neutopia (Scotto, please take off your mask (fwd)) Leri is One with the world. It is part of the Superorgasm. @LERI= Doctress Neutopia (.) I think I can speak for many of us here (many of which I know fairly well) when I say we don't particularly care much for manifestos (or feministos, or whatever), we don't especially care much for anyone telling us what is right or wrong, we don't like being assigned roles, even implicitly. But we do like vision. @LERI= juxlus (Re: ??? [help!] (fwd)) Doc. Neutopia > How do you like my orgasms? Medium-rare, please. @LERI= Brian (Re: Scotto, please take off your mask (fwd)) Leri is dying. Everything dies. We're watching leri die. Maybe it will live again. Like FC has, a pheonix rising from the ashes. But mark my words, leri is dying. @LERI= TONY PACE (Re: ???) Actions speak. Words can lead to blathering confabulations. @LERI= Jim Hawtree (re: . Jim Hawtree ($.02)) The whole deal is to treat people as individual people; with the love and respect we want to be shown for ourselves. Real Simple. But, nooooooooooooo, people insist on persecuting others because they are: (SELECT ONE OR MORE OF THESE AND ADD _AD LIBITUM_) 1)males 2)females 3)wrong skin color 4)wrong religion 5)wrong national origin 6)wrong belief system 7)live in wrong place 8)harbor wrong thoughts 9)do wrong actions 10)have a disapproved past history 11)have incorrect goals for the present and future 12)had the wrong parents 13)belong to a group that has done something disapproved of by someone.... _ad nauseum_. @LERI= Jim Hawtree (re: . Jim Hawtree ($.02)) :> Here I'll start, we can add one line at a time: :> :> Joe: Hey Gaia, what's for supper? : : gaia: why, endangered species, joe. rare, medium, or well-done? Joe: Rare, of course! They wouldn't be endangered otherwise... @LERI= Murali (I say we *all* write the Gaia Messiah play!) So when do we rename the list to doctress? @LERI= aron roberts (Re: I say we *all* write the Gaia Messiah play! (fwd)) if you [doc. neutopia] are so damn sure that Leri needs to become vegetarian then consider me dead and cremated. @LERI= Julie Ann Sitz (Re: I say we *all* write the Gaia Messiah play! (fwd)) >>> List: SKEPTIC * SKEPTIC Discussion Group * * To subscribe to this list send a mail/note message to * LISTSERV@JHUVM with the one-line message: * SUBSCRIBE SKEPTIC your-full-name I don't believe it, frankly. @LERI= Scotto (.) To: dlr In response to your inquiry of 16 November 1993, this program is required to inform you that Turing Program rlg1@cornell was created on 17 August 1992 by the Cornell Theory Center to test artificial intelligence algorythms. rlg1@cornell is programmed to copy random selections of usenet and listserv mail to certain self-selected usenet and listserv groups. ornell Board of Ethics and Human Experimentation approved this experiment with the proviso that disclosure be given to those persons inquiring about the experiment. Why the rlg1@cornell Turing Program selected the leri@pyramid.com list is not known at this time. Thankyou for your inquiry. @LERI= Richard Ginn (Net Impersonations *** Mandatory Disclosure Notice ***) On Fri, 19 Nov 1993, Brian wrote: > So how does it feel to be in a *truly* post-neutopian world Sort of spooky isnt it???? Like what the hell do we talk about *now* ???? @LERI= sj/aly (Re: that last message spozed to ignore) Why don't you show me more of your soul? @LERI= Doctress Neutopia (Re: that last message spozed to ignore) Doctress Neutopia: > Sameer, have you ever tried to create a family without being > close, I mean in touching distance? We've succeeded. @LERI= Sameer (Re: The Leri Institute, and extended families) For Jamie, [a dear friend]: Somewhere between just friends and lovers, In that ambiguity we hover, Knowing past is past, And future won't last, Loneliness is a dish for two. You cook for me...I'll cook for you. You're my confidant, my advocate, A ball and chain that just don't fit. We've come a long way, My dear, I offer up a toast, To my accomplice, side-kick, pal and host, May we always see straight through each other, May we each, one day, have found another. @LERI= Star (poem) Doctress Neutopia: :) IN ORDER TO FREE MARY, :) WE NEED COMMUNAL CHILD CARE. :) THAT WILL REQUIRE BUILDING A :) CHURCH OF VIRTUAL/REALITY. neutopia, I thought you unsubbed @LERI= silence (Re: The Leri Institute, and extended families) > ...anything happenning yet...? MMMWWWWOOOO HAAA HAAAAHAAAAAhahahahaahahahahaa um yes i think it might be um heya @LERI= Unsane (Re: netriPING) > Salutations :) I'm new....so I have questions: > > what's leri to you? Home. > why? /US/ > what holds it together - issues, ideas, whatever ? Ummm... 12? > what keeps it going? Electrons > where has it been? Hell + back > where's it headed currently? Net trip. @LERI= Sameer (Re: Question time.... :)) This particular ping, this one likes jazz a lot, I tell you. @LERI= Scotto (flavors of ping) Already this riff has grooved itself out, I see, and the fragrance of poignancy is one of my favorites. I like it when the music stops to say, on the ex side of the content, where the notes equal hello, please! Naturally I know who my audience is, and since the linearity isn't important as long as the flavor shimmers correctly, you can still see Pings from. This is an aesthetically pleasing Ping. @LERI= Scotto (.) once again, a ping. but this time, with PURPOSE. this time, a ping that WANTS to be read. talk about angst. @LERI= Scotto (.) Doctress Neutopia: > He is not the kind of All-American guy who turns off the computer, > turns on the foot ball game, drinks a beer, and masturbates to > pornography. Do you dig? According to actual investigations made by the Spiegel magazine the new generation prefers masturbation because searching and maintenance of love partners is to much strenuous. @LERI= Achim Friedrichs (Re: WHO WILL PLAY THE GAIA MESSIAH?) i am here for the night and up for the duration and stoned out me freeking mind and wondering why everyone is fighting and why everyone is spending so much bandwidth on neutopia and not wanting her to be involuntarily removed from leri and not wanting to delete her posts I don't like what she says cause she seem to be trying to impose her will on me (us?) we must this and we must that and her posts are so long but I feel bad deleting them and I am babbling but I don't give a fuck and zeek I asked you questions on irc that you did not respond to: 1. what do you see in neutopia? and I forget the rest but I know that i love tuna noodle caserole and as I was waiting at the train station this evening for the train an amtrak train passed going fantastically fast and geez if I just jumped out in front i bet it wouldn't hurt at all, i would die instantaneously, but I don't want to die, but the urge to jump is still there and VERY fucking hard to resist (had to literally hug the bench to keep from jumping tonite) and I don't want to die, I want to live, but sometimes this living ain't living,it's more like dying, slow, unlike the train, which would kill instantaneously and I am sorry i cussed at ppl on irc tonite and then quit, i am coming back soon @LERI= silence (leri after hours) Ping in the most pleasant way! @LERI= Scotto (.) This is a Ping in the present tense! @LERI= Scotto Fade back to Dr. Sigmund Freud's office. He is currently having a session with none other than our very own...... Doctress Neutopia! Dr. Freud: Let us play a little word game. I will say a word and you say the first thing that comes to your mind. Let us begin. The first word: father. Neutopia: Patriarchial oppressor. Dr. Freud: Mother Neutopia: Domestic slave, daily rape victim, victim of forced breeding. Dr. Freud: Son. Neutopia: Incest. Dr. Sigmund Freud removes his glasses and rubs his eyes, then rises and opens the office door. Dr. Freud : Helga, cancel my 11 o'clock! @LERI= BBURY (Please add to GM play) You know, I can't help but to notice, as of late, how humans are these amazing collections of matter. I no longer can seem to forget this. When I look out my frost-painted window, over the city of doom and glory, I see a water network. 'Tis laid-out in a fabulous grid. Wondrous are the funny globules of mineral-solven water that stream down the cemented arteries of Duluth. Here to occupy a frozen extremity of Earth, we make due, and keep the organ pumping. Squeezing through the callus fissures in the planetary skin, we move from tissue to tissue. Meandering the borders of the Great Scar, we avoid the cold and cancerous demise. To be overfilled by the very liquid that composes us, and cease to burn the minerals we devour, drowning is an experience to fear. @LERI= Richard Raby (Humans) We SHOULD all work for the end of capitalism and the domination of science so that we can move into an age of the loving penis. @LERI= Doctress Neutopia (Re: More TRUTH) At first, when I learned the word "love" I learned also the many things it is assumed to mean in our culture. I learned that there were too many, that some were cooercive, and decided that the word no longer had any real meaning. Then I met a person (and later another, and later another) who sparkled my eyes when I saw them, who filled my chest with joy, and planted a smile in my face. I knew that I loved. @LERI= Arthur Abraham (Re: More TRUTH) i know exactly where you are. if i had a map, i could pinpoint it down to the latitude-longtitude-minutes-seconds-instants. x marks the spot. mercator projection, world map, city map, whatever. i've seen it in postcards. i've seen it in photographs. i've seen it in rapid, low-altitude fly-bys. i've even almost been there, seen it on the horizon. it's been that close. i wish i could find a bus schedule or train schedule or flight itinerary that would tell me how to get to where you are. i mean, i know _exactly_ where it is. i could point to it on a map. maybe if i call a cab ... nope. can't buy a guided tour to where you are. cunard lines doesn't have it on their route. as much as much as much as i'd like to show up on your doorstep one day and say "here i am," and give you a big bone-crushing hug like i mean it and kiss you smack on the lips and let you know that you're not alone, there's no way i can ever do that, because there is no way in fucking hell i am ever going to be able to find out even what street you live on, much less the house number, and god that fucking kills me. sorry you for being human. this is for everybody in the whole wide world. but especially for one person. i sure hope she hears it. @LERI= andy kalinowitsch (i know exactly where you are) ,----------------------------------------------------------------------------. ----------------( In [Cyber]Space nobody can hear you Scream )---------------- `--------------------------jota@tutor.inesc.pt-------------------------------'